Awaiting the Return of Shaykh Mawlana Nazim al Hakkani … Sohbet the Day After the Funeral  


Mevlana Sheykh Nazim

 SelamAleykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu

Welcome to you. Welcome to me. Welcome first to our Sultan, Sheykh Maulana Muhammad Nazim Adil al-Haqqani. That must be what Allah and His Prophet, and His Angels and the Awliyas, they are saying to him: Welcome.Welcome.

We have entered into the second day of the Urs of our GrandSheykh, the fortieth in the Chain of the Naksibendi Order, the Sultan of Sultans, the Saint of the Saints, dunya and ahirat. The creation is witnessing a loss from its physical way, from its physical manifestation, is witnessing the loss of one of the Greatest Saint that ever Allah swt has created. The one who is most beloved to Him. The one who is most beloved to Holy Prophet (asws), to his family, to his companions, to all the Awliya Allah. And we are feeling very sad, and we are feeling very sorry to not be with him here physically. But Sheykh Maulana, he had passed through so many years of physical suffering and yesterday the physical suffering stop. Just because of that, that Sheykh Maulana is not under physical torture any more, just because of that, although we love him and we miss him and we always want to be with him, but just because he is not under that pain any more, we are saying thanks to Allah swt for stopping that.

And now, has such a thing happened before? That the most beloved one to Allah and His Prophet, that they have come to this world and they have spread the teachings of Allah, they have brought mankind to the Siratul Mustaqim, to make them to stay in the Siratul Mustaqim, and to make their hearts to turn to the Maula, those ones has it ever happened that Allah gave them life to live in this world and Allah take their life?

Of course. It has happened. It has happened to hundreds and thousands of Prophets. It has happened to hundreds and thousands of Awliya Allah, and it has happened first to our jamaat, that we have lost, physically, the contact with our Sultan, SahibulSaif Sheykh Abd Kerim Kibrisi al-Rabbani almost two years ago. That we thought never such a thing was going to happen, at least not for a very long time, although Sheykh Effendi has spoken about him being veiled, him passing from this world, him disappearing for years. Although he had spoken about how we must continue the work although he has passed, how we have to hold on tightly to the rope and not to let sheytan and the fitnah always to interfere, Always. But to kick it out, not to be in ghaflet!

He has made us to go through that before he passed. He has spoken to us many times. Once, he had said, it was during a Qurban,  he said, ‘what is going to happen now, what if I were to pass from this world now?’ And we were busy that time cutting the qurban and hanging it and cutting it and cleaning it, and distributing the meat, as it is part of our tradition and part of Islam, and he asked, ‘what if your Sheykh were to pass?’ And he gave the answer. He says, ‘half of you will stop to bury me. The other half is going to continue your work.’ And that is exactly what he said, and that is what we are doing. We are not going to stop the work. As we had said before, two years ago when people started to become very emotional and very confused, ‘what are we going to do now?’ They are saying, ‘my heart is so broken. I cannot go on. I don’t know what to do. I’m very sad. I’m very confused.’

We are saying, ‘why are you sad? Why are you confused?’

‘I don’t know what to do now.’

That means you never knew what to do in the beginning. Because if you knew what you are supposed to do, that time it doesn’t matter what happens, you are going to continue with the work. We knew, for example, Sheykh Effendi is saying, we were cutting the Qurban. That is the work. That is what we are busy with, doing that work. Now, he said, ‘what if I were to be veiled right now? What is going to happen?’ He says, ‘continue the work, half of you. Half of you, bury me.’


So, now beyond all the talks and all the emotions and all the sadness that we are feeling, there is still the underlying niat, intention and the action, is the work. It is still the Hizmet. After everything else, there is still the Hizmet. If you are concentrating on the Hizmet, you are going to feel sad of course, but later you are going to say, ‘if I continue like this, who is going to continue the work? I cannot. Because this work is for Sheykh Effendi, and he likes it and he wants me to do it. So I must even put all my sadness, and I must put all my emotions aside for now and to continue the work.’ Isn’t this what the Sahabi e-Kiram they did?

They did. They continue the work. And when Sheykh Effendi Hazretleri, Sheykh Abdul Kerim Kibrisi el-Rabbani, when he was veiled, we continue the work. The successorship was made very clear, and we continued. Because we have been given the flag and we have been given our work and we must continue no matter what. What happens when you are in war, someone is carrying the flag, and that person is shot ?All his friend is going to stop now and cry for him? What are you going to do? And do what? Carry the Flag. Yes. It’s the flag now. It’s not even your friend. It’s beyond everything else. It is the work. Someone must step up to take the flag, the flag cannot fall. That one is shot, another one must come up. You are not going to sit and say, ‘ohh my friend. I love you so much, what am I going to do? My life is finish!’

You must carry the flag now. And what they said, in the Ottoman war, if they see the flag still standing up, they see so many dead bodies on top of it to make that flag to be standing up. Now, we are not going to let that flag to fall. And our Sheykh has train us enough, for us to be able to carry these days too. Because these days, they are going to come with confusion and Fitnah, and too much talk. But where is the work? Oh, Allahu A’lam. What Is The Work? Who is asking? What is Sheykh Maulana’s work? What is Sheykh Effendi’s work now?  At least for us, our Jamaat, we know what Sheykh Effendi’s work is. We did not stop. Yes, we feel sad. We feel like we want to end everything. But we  know if we give in a little bit, sheytan is going to jump on it, our ego is going to take over, and it’s going to fool us. So then what happen? The work has to continue.

So, when Holy Prophet (asws), he passed from this world, he was veiled from this world. we are believers, we are Mureeds, we don’t say they die, it is very bad manners and it is not true. They are passed from this world, or they are veiled. Because Allah Himself says, ‘don’t think that those who slain in the way of Allah, that they are dead.’ This is ayat from the Quran. They are not dead, but they are fresh and alive in their graves in a way you don’t understand. So the Prophets, they are not dead. They are fresh and they are alive. And when the Prophet (asws), he passed, and then there were so much confusion because there were so many munafiqs around that they wanted to take over the situation, to use it for their own benefits, to divide people, and to start fighting with each other. Those that the Holy Prophet (asws) had given work for them to do, they are not busy with that. They may not even be too much involve in so many of the things, because they are busy with their work. Doesn’t matter now.

When Holy Prophet (asws) passed, and there were so much confusion, and people were saying so many things,  and that was when Hz Umar (ra), the one that Holy Prophet (asws) said, ‘if there were a prophet after me, it was going to be Umar,’ he took out his sword and he went around saying, ‘whoever says that Muhammad is dead I’ll kill him. Who is saying that he is dead, (asws)?’

Understand the meaning now. It is not just because he is emotional that he cannot take the reality that Prophet is pass. Of course he knows that. But he also knows that there are those who say, ‘you see, he’s dead. He’s a normal human being. Everything that he stood up for, now meaning it’s dead too. He pass, so his work is also pass.’ That was the meaning of so many Fitnah makers that time. So he took out his sword and say, ‘Say! I dare you to say that he is dead. And I’ll cut your neck off.’

sword of Umar


To which Hz Abu Bakr said, ‘Ya Umar. Be gentle. Ya Umar, calm down.’  Then he quoted from the ayat, Hz Abu Bakr Siddiq, the peer of our Naksibendi Tarikat, the first of our Grandsheykh after the Holy Prophet (asws), quoting from the ayat, saying, ‘the Prophet, you think they are not going to pass? They are like the Prophets of old. Allah send them to this world, and Allah will take their lives.’ And at the same time he stood up and he addressed to everyone. And he covered everything, every angle, saying, ‘those who worship Muhammad (asws), know that Muhammad is dead. But those who worship Allah, to know that Allah is Hayyu and Qayyum, His life is everlasting and He is never in need of anything. He is self-sustaining.’

Look at what he says. I’m saying, because he addressed everything. We said before, for the believer, we don’t say that the Prophet and the beloved of Allah that they are dead. Now, the closest companion of the Holy Prophet (asws) is saying, ‘know that Muhammad is dead.’ What a language, huh. How far it is now? For those who don’t understand, this is what they are going to see. And wahhabi, they love to quote this, to say, “you see, Prophet is dead. Don’t go to his tomb. Don’t ask him for prayers. Don’t ask him for shafa’at. He’s dead. He can do nothing for you. Because see, Abu Bakr is saying, ‘Muhammad is dead.’” But the second part of that sentence, depends on the first part. First part is what?  ‘For those of you who worship Muhammad (asws), know that he is dead.’ Now I ask, out of the hundreds and thousands that entered into Islam during the time of the Prophet (asws), which one of them worship Muhammad (asws)? None. None.

None worship the Prophet. But he is saying, ‘if you worship the Prophet, then he is dead. If you don’t worship the Prophet (asws), but  you worship Allah, just as Allah swt is Hayyu and Qayyum, Divinely Hayyu and Qayyum, now the Holy Prophet (asws), as Allah swt has given him the quality of Rauf and Rahim, in the Quran,’ wahabbis they hate that too. They say, ‘No no. Rauf and Rahim, all these sifat is only for Allah.’ Allah sifat is not Allah. Allah can give it to someone else. It doesn’t mean that He is going to give everything that is from Him. In fact, Allah doesn’t give something from Him, because He is Ahad. He is indivisible.

So in the ayat of Laqad Ja’akum, Allah swt is saying, ‘the Prophet is Rauf and Rahim.’ The Divine name that is given to Allah, He said, ‘I bestow it to the Prophet,’ and Hz Abu Bakr as-Siddiq is saying now, ‘if you worship Muhammad, know that Muhammad (asws) is dead. If you worship Allah, know that Allah is Hayyu and Qayyum. If you worship Allah, and if you love the Prophet, and to know that the Prophet is alive, the Prophet is also Hayyu and Qayyum, not in the way that Allah is, but what Allah has given that is for him, Specially for him.

So many not understanding. So many are going to take my words to twist it also. But I’ve covered every angle now. “If you worship Muhammad, know that Muhammad is dead. If you don’t worship him, and if you worship Allah, just as Allah is Hayyu and Qayyum, the Holy Prophet (asws), he is ever living, not in the same way as Allah is, and he is ever sustaining but not in the same way as Allah is.”

So now, those who are in this way, and we are seeing the veiling of our Grandsheykh, Sultan of the Awliyas, to know that he is not dead. That he is fresh and he is alive, and he is living and Allah is granting him the ability to sustain. Alhamdulillah. This much we can say that at least now Sheykh Effendi and Sheykh Maulana, they are together. And Sheykh Effendi is very happy. Sheykh Maulana is very happy. And we are asking them always to send us their support. And now, we have two swords.  On the swords now, because SahibulSaif he has a sword, the sword now is two, it’s split, turns into Zulfiqar. And that Zulfiqar will return. InsyaAllah ar-Rahman.

sword of Allah

Sheykh Effendi will return. Sheykh Maulana said this that he is going to return. For what? For the events that are going to happen in the last days. There’s so many things in Islam that you don’t understand. So many secrets. Those who say there are no secrets in Islam, then they don’t understand nothing. Then they think that they are Allah, because Allah is a secret.  The Prophet (asws) is a secret. You will never understand. The sun is a secret, you will not understand. You yourself have a secret that if you don’t have a guide to guide you for you to know yourself, you will not know yourself, the secret that you are carrying.

So don’t say that there are no secrets in Islam. And if Sheykh Effendi is coming back for that final war between Haqq and Batil, between the forces of Truth against the forces of Dajjal, Sheykh Maulana will be coming back too. And we are the first to say it. And we are waiting for that, and we are preparing ourselves for that. Because we have been prepared by our Sheykh to concentrate only on the work. Work within ourselves to step on our ego and to watch out for our nafs and sheytan. To step on our ego, with the small things, then big things will come easy. You know you have a well oil machinery. It doesn’t work. So many times it doesn’t work not because the engine is not working but because there is some sand or some dust, isn’t it? Get rid of that dust! Those things you give in so easily, but other things when they touch your ego, you’re standing up firm and say that, ‘how can someone be saying this to me?’ Why is that?

You must change. Whatever dust, must be the dust that is under the feet of our Sheykh that we put on top of our heads. And we want to be that dust that is under the feet of our Sheykh, that wherever that they are travelling, that we will be with them. But there must be a function. There must be a reason why we are, what is our work, what is our function. You cannot just say, ‘oh, I just love, love, love.’ What is that mean love? Don’t forget, we all have love. What does that mean, love? ‘Oh it means this and it means that.’ Is that according to you, or according to Prophet, or according to the Sahabi e-Kiram? If I make any daytime talk show host about love, they can speak for years  talking about love, isn’t it? How did the Sahabi e-kiram show their loves to the Prophet (asws)? By involving themselves in fitnah? By fighting with one another?

We are on the brink of something really great. We are on the brink of bringing all the Ummat together. Understand this. More I cannot say. Where is your part? Are you at least opening your hands to ask for that? Are you at least opening your hands to ask, ‘may I be those ones who are still true and strong in the way, when those Holy ones, when those tremendous ones, they are going to return to this world, when I look at them, they know that I have prepared myself, that I didn’t give in to my ego just to be weak, and in the name of sadness, just to be emotional and to be giving up from everything’?

That, you don’t have to be a scholar to answer. For that, you don’t have to be a Saint to answer. For that, you have to sit down and understand what is your role in all of this, what is your work in this jamaat. If you don’t have work, we have a lot of work to give you. Because our jamaat, Sheykh Effendi’s jamaat, the Osmanli Naksibendi Jamaat, we are busy with things that concerns us. We are not busy with things that don’t concern us. And there’s a lot of work that we have to do. And that is how we show our love. Both outside, physical work, what we are doing, and inside. When you submit, when you try to change, you are working on yourself. That time we hope to be like the dust.

Now bring that dust (Hoja Effendi instructed a Mureed). Bring that dust. BismillahirRahmanirRahim. Bring it here (Hoja put the dust on top of his head and kiss the dust). Contain here is dust.  You are saying, ‘what do you mean dust? Isn’t dust under our feet? Why are you putting it on top of your head?’ We say because this is very Holy dust. Because this dust, it was under the sandals of our GrandSheykh, Sultan ul-Awliya. Because this dust was collected from the sandals of our GrandSheykh.

Almost one year ago, one of Sheykh Maulana most trusted ones that has been serving him for forty years, Hussein Effendi,  he came to visit the Osmanli Dergah, that he has been invited for years to come to visit during Sheykh Effendi’s time when he was here physically. He did not come. After Sheykh Effendi was veiled, then he came. And he came for Qurban. And he brought with him a pair of sandals he said that Sheykh Maulana was wearing. But they took the sandals and they throw into the garbage. He decided to take it and to give it to me. So I took it, and I put it on top of my head, and he smiled. And from that smile, I know that he felt very happy cos he knows that Sheykh Abd Kerim Effendi has trained us well. That these are the sandals of the Sultan-ul Awliya.

We must look at it as if that these are the sandals of Sheykh Abd Qadir Geylani (qs), of the sandals of Salman el-Farisi, of the Sandals of Imam ul-Rabbani,  of the Sandals of Hz Abu Bakr Siddiq, as the Sandals of the Holy Prophet (asws). I don’t care if they have millions of sandals over there. They throw to garbage! We pick up from garbage, and we clean, and we make it good. Because that is the way the Prophets and the Saints they have behaved, not us. But the way that the Saints and the Prophets they have behaved, they always take things from the garbage, and they clean and  they present it to Allah swt. And he found everyone of us in the garbage.

We are garbage if we are running after the dunya. We are garbage if we are running after our egos.  We are garbage if we run after our desires and he picked us up from all that garbage and he clean us to make us to understand what is our spirit, and to make us understand what is sheytan and what is our ego, and he clean. And this Sandal, this Holy Sandal, we decided to give it to our brother here, for him to put in the Dergah that Sheykh Effendi is feeling very comfortable in, that he has always said that he will come to ease his mind and his heart. And it came to my heart to give it to him.

So our brother Osman took this. I gave it to him. I wanted to see what he’s going to do with it too. It was also a test. We never tell people what to do too.  We are going to see how their hearts are going to move, how much love they are going to have, how much wakefulness they are going to have. It’s not just a claim. I came a few days ago, yesterday he said, ‘I have something to show you.’ I was shocked. And he said, ‘this is what we did. This is what we are doing. We decided to put this up, we decided to give it a Ghusl, to put Rose water and Rose oil and to place it for Barakat in the Dergah here.’



It is not because of this physical thing. It is because of who is wearing it. You understand? It is not because this is valuable by itself, no, but it’s the person who wore it that gave it value. It is not the chair, it is not the throne that has value, it is who sits there. Doesn’t matter if it’s the throne of Sultan or the throne of Sultan ul-Awliya. It is who sits there that gives it value. And we are giving value to it, because it was once under the feet of our Grandsheykh. Because we want to always be under the feet of our Sheykh, and under the feet of our Grandsheykh. Because we know our Grandsheykh through him. If we claim that we know our GrandSheykh through ourselves, then definitely we are just going to be following our ego. So many people have fallen into that trap, following their ego thinking that they are following Haqq.

May Allah swt make our hearts to become together, to make us to become more sincere,  and to make us to have stronger faith to step on our ego, not to be weak and to give in. May Allah swt give us patience and give us more Mohabbat. That Mohabbat, that love, can only be obtained when you are running for hizmet. More Hizmet that you are making, more service, more mohabbat. May Allah increase our strength to make more hizmet in this way, InsyaAllah. And for Mohabbat to our Sheykh and for our Sheykh’s Mohabbat to us to increase. Wa minAllahu Taufiq.

May Allah forgive me and bless all of  you. May Allah give guidance to the whole Ummat. May Allah grant more mercy to the whole ummat. May Allah grant more clarity to the whole ummat and especially to those ones following in this way. May we always be together and not be separated. May we not be fooled by those one who are making Fitnah. May we be busy with the work ourselves. For the sake of the Holy Prophet (asws), Sultan ul-Awliya, and Sheykh Effendi SahibulSaif.



SelamAleykum Warahmatullah wabarakatu. 

 Sohbet by Hoja Lokman Efendi Hz, on the Day After the Veiling of Sultan-ul Awliya Shaykh Mawlana Muhammad Nazim Adil al Hakkani al Kibrisi (qs)

May 8, 2014


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