Discipline is the Shariat that contains the love and it contains the Haqq


a true love

 La hawla wa la quwwata illa billahil aliyyil azim.

Medet Ya SahibulSaif. Medet.

We are asking support from our Sheykh to send us something that is going to benefit us here and Hereafter. We are here minding our own business, continuing with our work. What is our work? To become servant to Allah, by first becoming a servant to His Holy Prophet (asws), and to become servant, before that, to our Sheykh, the waris of the Prophet, the one that the Sultanul Awliya has put on top of us dunya and ahiret, to serve him, to become a servant, because we have been created to become the servant of Allah swt. We have been created to know Allah and to worship Him.

Service. Service requires what? If you want to serve, what is the most important thing to have when you want to serve? So many is going to say: ‘Love. I have to have love then that time I can serve.’ We put a big question mark to that word ‘Love.’ Because it is the most, hmm, how should I put this delicately, the most abused word in the English language for the past hundred years or more. And that is the word that so many who are the enemies of Haqq that they are using. They are using that word ‘love’ to be opposed to Haqq, truth. To say that love is higher than truth. But if we say what kind of love? They say, ‘Love what makes me feel good. What makes me feel right. If I feel right, how can it be wrong?’

That is not love, that is ego. Because there is a Creator of love. We did not create love. If that Creator has created love, He has defined what that love is. You cannot put your own spin on it. Allah is Wadud, Al-Wadud. But He is the Creator of Wadud. Anyone can say, ‘oh, I believe in God. I believe in Allah. So I think love is like this, love is like that.’ No you cannot too. Because He has given the full message and the complete message. After more than thousands of years, the message that was opening up, blooming like a rose, for thousands of years through 124,000 Prophets from Adam (as) to Isa (as), 124,000 Prophets and that message was blooming and the complete message came to the Holy Prophet (asws). The complete message. So it is not what you think the message is. It is what the Owner and the Creator of that message gave to His beloved messenger (asws). And that messenger, he has passed. Physically he has passed from this world. Spiritually he is Hazir and Nazir. Of course. But physically he has left his inheritors, the waris, and these are the ones that we call the Sheykhs, the Awliya Allah. And our waris, the one that we follow who is the inheritor of the Prophet (asws) is SahibulSaif Sheykh Abdul Kerim el-Kibrisi el-Rabbani. He was given that authority and that power from Sultanul Awliya. From the Day of Promises until Yawmul Qiyamah, until beyond. He has given it.

So now, the definition of love is not according to you or me, or them, or Hollywood, or music, or magazines or books, or time, or country, or culture, or philosophy. The definition of that love is held by the Owner of that love, Allah swt. And He passes it only to those ones that He has given the permission and the authority. Alhamdulillah, we are under one of those ones: Sheykh Abdul Kerim el-Kibrisi el-Rabbani.

So what is that love? If the whole world says: ‘we are flying,’ especially in this second jahiliyyah ahir zaman, we say we walk. If the whole world says: ‘we are crawling,’ we say we fly. If the whole world says ‘it’s black,’ we say it’s white. If the whole world says it’s white, we say it’s black. Because this is what? Second jahiliyyah, ahir zaman, the time of dajjal. So if you have certain ideas, no matter what group you call yourself, and you are in line with the majority of this system of dajjal, good luck to you. We are not. Because we are far away. We try to be very far away from that.

So what is this love now? Huh! Simple. They have been talking about it for thousands of years, other beliefs they have been talking about it for thousands of years what love is. Love is this. Love is that. The Creator of love has given that to the Holy Prophet (asws), His beloved one. And his beloved one, Sayyidina awalin wal ahirin  is saying to us what that love is. Love to what? Love to truth. Love to Him. Love to Allah. I’m not talking about love to dunya. I’m not talking about man or woman love. I’m not talking about love of your desires. I’m talking about love that you are going to return to the Creator of love. That whatever He has given you, you return it back to Him. Because He is the owner, not you. You cannot take that love. You have to return it. It doesn’t belong to you. And what did the Holy Prophet (asws) say when one of his companions, one person came to him and say, ‘Ya Rasulullah, I love you.’ Did he say, ‘tamam, it is enough. It is enough to put you in safety.’ Did he say that? This hadiths, did he say that in this hadiths? He did not. And this hadiths, Sheykh Effendi has quoted so many times and we are continuing to take what is necessary for us to wake up to this.

So the man said, ‘Ya Rasulullah, I love you.’ And the Prophet (asws) say, he didn’t say, ‘SubhanaAllah, you are going to reach to high station. High Maqams.’ He did not say anything like that! He said, ‘prepare yourself for hardship. If you love me, prepare yourself for hardship.’ Is this an isolated incident in the seerah of the Prophet (asws), when somebody loves the Prophet and he has to go through hardship? This is not an isolated incident.  This is the norm. All those who love the Prophet (asws) during his lifetime they all went through severe test and hardship. Tabi’in went through that severe test and hardship. All those who love truth up till Yawmul Qiyamah, their lives will be filled with test and hardships to prove that love. Because they love, Holy Prophet (asws) says, ‘prepare yourself for hardship.’ Now with that love, all those hardship, it will be very easy. All that hardship will make us strong. All that hardship is going to give us more faith and more love. It is not the opposite.

Dunya is thinking: hardship is bad, no hardship is good. We’ve come to that point now in this ahir zaman, black is white and white is black. If they are saying that, you have to think the opposite. Especially something that they say officially. Now that hardship, what did the khutba that we were mentioning today? It is the year of sadness, isn’t it? 1400 years ago, in this time, in this time of Rajab. We have to study the seerah. It is important to learn about the history. ‘Oh, why you have to learn? Why you have to study? Love is enough.’ Did anyone, just through love of, say, law, they become a lawyer? They don’t have to go through school? ‘I love to become a dentist.’ Very good. You love, I give you diploma. You can become a dentist. Ever it happens, in this world? You love and you have to go through so much hardship, isn’t it? Years. There’s no guarantee that you are going to pass too. If you don’t have enough discipline that you put into that study, no matter how much you love, you will fail.

So now, those ones who went through the tests, how did they go through the test? How did they pass through the test? Just through love? The same ones who said, ‘we love you Ya Husein. We give our lives to you ya Husein. We love you. We love you. We love you.’ Yet those group of people they are not the same group of people who were in Medina, who were in Mecca. They did not go through that test. They did not have that discipline. With that proclamation of love, the night time falls, they abandoned and betrayed Hz Husein. But they are the first ones to say, ‘we love you.’


So the love comes with hardship, comes with test. How are you going to pass your test if you don’t study? How are you going to pass your test if you don’t have discipline? As far as I remember, the whole teachings of this Tarikat, it is based on fighting against your ego. It is not based on loving your ego. Those who wish to go somewhere, those whose role models are the Sahaba e-Kiram, the Tabi’ins, our Sheykh who went through hardship, they are our role models, those who look to the hadiths where the man says, ‘I love you,’ Prophet (asws) says, ‘prepare yourself for hardship,’ those who hold on to the ayat of the Quran e-Kerim that says: ‘you mean us not to test you, O those of you thinking you are going to go to the same high stations, do you think that we are not going to test you? Do you think that we don’t mean to test you O believers?’ again and again Allah swt is mentioning in the Quran e-Kerim that He is going to test the believers. Those of us who are holding on to that, those are our role models, in order to pass that test, those hardships, we have to have the discipline.

You think you have love? Love is not the warm fuzzy feelings. Love is not just you feel so good inside, then with the little prick of the needle, everything is going to burst. Love is when you are getting knocked from wall to wall. Love is when you are going to be scrubbed with the brilo. Love is when you are willing to take that knife and to sacrifice your ego, to make the ultimate qurban to the ego, to Allah swt. It’s not to say, ‘I love you my ego. I love everyone.’

Whole world, whole dajjalic world, is talking about love. We are not going to talk about love. Because if you want to talk about love, no one falls into that category. Like what we said before, there is Shariat and there is Tarikat. There is a Shariat of Tarikat. When you talk about Ashq, there’s a Shariat of Ashq and the Tarikat of Ashq too. You can never run away from Shariat. It is a law. It is a law. You can never run away from it. ‘Oh, I’m no longer in Shariat. I’m in Tarikat.’ There’s a Shariat in Tarikat. ‘I’m no longer in Tarikat, I’m in…’ so many people they have so many different terms for this, higher you go, there is also a Shariat for that. You can never run from it. And the Shariat of love, who can afford to do that?

Discipline, for the sake of Allah, for the sake of the Holy Prophet (asws) is the Shariat that contains the love and it contains the Haqq. Without that container, without that protection, without the discipline, everything will go to pieces.

edep ya hu

In Tarikat, in the Dergahs, the most important thing is Edep. Edep, edep, edep. Edep Ya Hu, Edep Ya Hu, Edep Ya Hu. The sheytan, some groups they love sheytan, astarghfirullah, they are saying, he (sheytan) is the example of the ultimate lover of Allah. Right? They are saying, sheytan refused to make sejdah to Adam (as) because he loves Allah so much. He loves Allah so much, he cannot give respect or love to anything else except for Allah and he is even willing to sacrifice that love for Allah to punish him because his love was so great. So much philosophy happening, masyaAllah. Isn’t that what it is? So sheytan had so much knowledge, he had so much love, but he lost his manners. Did that love save him? Did Allah swt say, ‘oh, you know what, you slip. It’s okay. You love Me. I know you make that mistake, you love Me and I forgive you. It’s okay.’ Allah did not say that. The sheytan is being punished up till today. It has not even started its real punishment.

But Allah swt is the most forgiving, saying, ‘I will forgive you. I’m the most forgiving.’ Like what sheytan asked Musa (as) when he was on his way to the mountain of Tur and sheytan saying, ‘Ya Musa, your Lord, is not just,’ hasha astarghfirullah. Musa (as) says, ‘why are you saying that ya ma’lum?’ and sheytan says, ‘because I did wrong. Adam (as), Adam ,’ he’s never going to say Adam alaihi salam, ‘Adam did wrong. Allah told me to do and I didn’t. Allah told him don’t do and he did. But Allah forgive him. Allah did not forgive me.’

Musa (as) was caught for a second. He says, ‘wait, I will ask our Lord and I will give you an answer.’ He went up and Allah swt then say, ‘Ya Musa, say to Me.’

‘This is known to You Ya Rabbi. This is what sheytan said.’

He says, ‘Ya Musa, you are worried because of that? It’s so easy. Give him an answer.’ He says, ‘your Lord is most just. Tell him I will forgive him instantly. He knows where the grave of Adam (as) is, go to his grave,’ and this is another proof to those ones who hate us to go to the graves of Prophets and to Saints, Allah is giving order to sheytan, meaning there is a rahmat for  sheytan to get at Adam(as)’s grave. You think there’s no rahmat for us?

‘Say to him: you know where Adam (as) is, go to his grave, do what you were supposed to do on that day, which is to make one Sejdah to him. Tell him, go to Adam (as)’s grave and make one Sejdah, I will forgive him. Your Lord is most just.’

Musa (as) went down, he said to sheytan, ‘easy. My Lord is most just. He is saying, go to Adam (as)’s grave and make one sejdah, He will forgive you everything. Your sins at that time and all your sins that you’ve committed until this moment.’

What did sheytan say?

He said, ‘I did not make sejdah to him when he was alive, now He wants me to make sejdah to him, to his dry bones? Never I’m going to do that!’ He became more sheytan.

So it is not the mercy of Allah, it is not the love of Allah that is not causing the man to reflect that. It is because he puts veils in front of him, arrogance and stubbornness and anger. The ego that he puts. So sheytan had so much love. But he lost his manners. Manners is the most important thing in Tarikat, not your Ilm, isn’t it? Not even a love. Because everything has to have proof. You cannot make a claim without giving a proof. If you make a claim without giving a proof, if you make a claim and there’s no proof, you will be called a what? A liar.

And a Sahabi asked Prophet (asws), ‘Ya Rasulullah, can a believer be weak?’ I’m paraphrasing that hadiths.


‘Can a believer make adultery?’

He says, ‘yes.’

‘Can a believer lie?’

He says, ‘no. a believer can never lie.’

If you say something and you cannot back it up, you have no proof, you are a liar. So now, whole world is a liar. We want to keep our manners and the only way to keep our manners is to have discipline. It is impossible, otherwise. The whole fight against to our ego, the whole jihadul Akhbar, it is to discipline ourselves. Last I check, our Tarikat is based on that, isn’t it? Fighting against our ego. fighting against dunya, fighting against sheytan, fighting against hawa, isn’t it? Fighting against our anger, fighting against our stubbornness, our pride, our envy. Isn’t it? Where is the love in all of this? I didn’t hear nothing. Suddenly everyone is talking about love. Oh maybe, that’s all that they can talk about and they can give through speech.

Of course, if people, it is better for them to like and to say that they love Awliya, anybody who does that there is some safety to that. Of course we know that. An unbeliever who looks at our Sheykh with love and say, ‘you look very nice wearing that turban and that jubbah,’ the face is lighting with that faith for a split second, that one insyaAllah has more syafaat than somebody who is worshiping, calling himself a muslim but he is hating the friends of Allah. Definitely. But, you cannot say now, the one who says that one word to an AwliyaAllah has more safety, or has more value or has equal value to the ones that their whole lives they are fighting against to their ego, for the love of that Awliya Allah. that they are giving up this dunya and this hawa for the love of that AwliyaAllah. That their ego is getting knocked wall to wall for the love of that AwliyaAllah. You cannot put the same thing together. That is unjust.

Even amongst the Sahabi e-Kiram, there are different stations for every sahabi. You cannot say they are all the same, that is unjust. We want to become servants. I don’t care for titles, love this or that. Lover or Ashq, we want to serve. How are we going to serve? To have discipline to serve. You don’t have discipline, you cannot serve. You cannot. That time you’ll be doing things according to your ego.

I will be happy if they say, ‘My servant, come.’ That is our maksud; for them to be happy with us, with our service. The love, as Holy Prophet (asws) says, when that sahabi came and said, ‘I love you Ya Rasulullah.’ He said, ‘if you love me, prepare yourself for hardship.’ This is the second jahiliyyah, worse than the first jahiliyyah, we should prepare ourselves for that hardship that is coming. If we are not training, putting our ego down to go through that hardship now,  impossible we will be able to do that in the future. We have not been hit by hardship yet. But believe me, this whole world is going through hardship right now. We are just being protected in pockets here and there. Don’t think this whole world is like America or England or…Majority of this world is in severe hardship and oppression. If in ease we don’t have discipline, all those who say discipline is not important, do you think that time in hardship you will have that discipline? And you need that discipline in hardship.

WaminAllahu Taufiq. May Allah keep us on this straight way, not to get deviated, the way of SahibulSaif, the way of Sultanul Awliya, through him, it is enough for us. WaminAllahu Taufiq, may Allah forgive me and bless all of you. May Allah raise their station higher and higher. Al Fatiha.

love of awliya Allah

After Jummah Sohbet by Sheykh Lokman Efendi Hz, Khalifah of SahibulSaif Shaykh Abdulkerim el Kibrisi (qs), OSMANLI DERGAHI- New York
19 Rajab 1436H
May 8, 2015


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