Value every Sohbet for it is fresh, and it reveals something new each day

Auzubillahi minashaitanir Rajim



Destur. Medet ya SahibulSaif Sheykh Abd Kerim al-Kibrisi al-Rabbani (qs). We are asking support from our Sheykh, to say something and to listen to something that is going to give us benefit. If you are not gaining any benefits, intelligence will say that there must be something wrong. If you are not getting any benefits from the acitivity that you are doing, then there must be something wrong. So many things can go wrong. Either that activity that you are doing is not giving you anything or you are not putting something into it to gain it properly.

You ask me the manner of visiting a maqam (Sheykh refers to a murid who raised a question earlier about visiting maqams). Let’s speak about the manner of being in association because Tarikatuna Sohbet Fil Khayri Min Jamiya, this Tarikat is based on association. It’s not based on zikr. It’s not based on recitation. It’s not based on salat. It’s based on association. You have to derive benefit from that association. If you are not gaining anything from the association, then you are not gaining anything from the Tarikat. What is the manner that you are going to have to gain something from an association? So many of us have sat at the association of our Sheykh. Some of us have sat at the association of Sheykh Maulana, and from Sheykh Effendi’s time onward and now, he has given me the permission and the authority and the knowledge to speak. Now we are in this association. What is the manner that a murid must have when they enter into an association?

We spoke about this yesterday, didn’t we? That we are not looking to physical bodies that are here, that we hear and we see, that their minds and their hearts is screaming to not be here. Words that we are speaking they are screaming in opposition. So now, they are not sitting and listening to the sohbet. They are having their own sohbet inside, with the ego. You know. I know. Everyone who calls themselves a murid, at one point or another, they have gone through this, sitting in the association of your Sheykh. If you say, you haven’t then I say, masha’Allah to you. You must be in the highest level of Saint because you don’t even have to battle your ego. So now, it is the ego.

How many times we hear Sheykh Effendi saying, ‘come with an empty cup.’ Oh, so many have heard that. Everyone has heard that. But they are shocked to have any meaning because I’m looking, so many they are not coming with an empty cup. Because some, they don’t even want to come. If you don’t even want to come, forget about the cup if it is empty or not.  Then there are some who come in with a cup that is already full, and there is nothing that you can add in because you are not taking anything. Yes, I remember the time, some of you do also, that Sheykh Effendi will be giving sohbet and there are some others that are upstairs in the house listening to the sohbet of Sheykh Maulana, ‘I’m not going to listen to your sohbet. I’m going to listen to the real Sheykh’s sohbet.’ Ego plays the same old tricks to so many. That happened so many times. So many of you, especially the women, you are witnessed. So what is now the manner of entering into a sohbet? Are we understanding now that we are entering into a Holy gathering? And what happens in a Holy gathering? What happens in the circle? You have to kick your sheytan out. You have to kick your ego out. Kick it out. Not invite it in. Not sit down and start talking to it when  you are listening to the sohbet. You understand?

If you say, ‘No. That is not my ego. That is not my sheytan that is talking. That is my intelligence.’ Then we say, is your intelligence agreeing to the sohbet or not? It’s not agreeing to the sohbet. Then that is not intelligence. That is coming straight from your ego and  from sheytan. ‘Oh, but I heard it before.’ So things that you heard before stops to have any meaning? So you recite Fatiha, forty times a day, three hundred and sixty five days a year, ten, twenty, thirty, foty, fifty, sixty, seventy years. Why you want to say it over and over again? You said it before. One time. Why you have to La ilaha ilallah, over and over again? You said it one time, right? Why say ‘Allah’?

Oh, so now, Allah is saying, ‘Remember Me. You should remember Me.’ Remember means what? You already know. You already know, it’s not something new. You already know it. And now, you have to remind yourself. This is what you need to do. And there are reminders. There are reminders everywhere and there are specific reminders when the person is given the work to remind you. Whether you like it or you don’t like it. And if that work  is given, and if it is his work, his job to do, as murids, you know what you are supposed to do. Of course there is no forcing, but you know what is your responsibility.

So now the edep of listening to a sohbet, if you start throwing away, kicking out the ego, kicking out the sheytan, coming in and listening as if you are listening to it for the first time, that the words you are hearing for the first time, I swear to you, new knowledge will come to you. New understanding will come to you. Same words, new understanding. Same sohbets, new understanding. Same story, same jokes, it is fresh. Because you are looking, you are watching, and you are turning it. How can you get tired from looking at a piece of jewel? Everyday it is revealing something new. Take that and you say, ‘this is something I’ve seen before. Let me look closer.’ Something else will be revealed to you. This is the manner of approaching anything that is valuable.


When it is a sohbet of someone that we value, or something that we value, or your work, there is always something to discover. But why is that? It’s the same thing, same object, it is the same sohbet, it is the same person, why is that? Yes, it is something that we talk about the week before, what is that? A murid has to have what? Passion.  And if you think passion is the way so many westerners they think, ‘passion is just an emotions. When it comes, I have it. When it doesn’t come, I cannot force it.’ You cannot force passion. Hundred and twenty four thousand Sahabis, they were passionate. Do you think if they have that kind of emotional response we have, in our surrounding, they would become Sahabis? They have passion. They put something there. They sacrifice. It’s not just their time, or their money, or their work, they sacrifice from their heart. They put from their heart to the Prophet (asws) and to the community. Once you put your heart there, it is not taken from you, it beomes bigger. Sahaba e-Kiram looking to the whole ummah, now it’s part of them and they are part of the ummah.  Just as the Holy Prophet (asws) is saying, ‘the ummat is one body. If one part hurts, the whole body feels the pain.’

This month of Ramazan may Allah give us more passion, more understanding, more power to step on our ego. We should not get stuck. We should not regress and we should not get stuck. At least if you are stuck  when you are making progress, it is something.  It’s no good but at least it’s something. You are making one step up and you are stuck there. Don’t make steps down and get stuck there. It is not very wise in this path. We are under a lot of eyes. We are under a lot of tests, we are under a lot of looks, the bad looks of people, the bad wishes of people. And we should look to something bigger than ourselves. We need to look from something bigger than what we feel, to what this jamaat is, to what the Sheykh and his mission, to what our mission is supposed to be and will be in the coming years. InsyaAllah ar-Rahman. We didn’t even start yet. May Allah keep us strong. May Allah forgive us. WaminAllahu Taufiq. AlFatiha.

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After Jummah Sohbet by Sheykh Lokman Efendi Hz,
Khalifah of SahibulSaif Shaykh Abdulkerim el Kibrisi (qs),
9 Ramazan 1436H
June 26, 2015

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