What happens to those who give beyat to be in this Osmanli Way but did not submit ?


Question: What happens to those who give beyat to be in this Osmanli way but did not submit to the orders of the Shaykh, did not follow the Sohbets and cut all connections to the Shaykh and the jamaat. Is he still considered a murid?


He can considers himself whatever he wants to consider himself. But if he is not getting any benefit from it, then he’s lost. If he has cut himself off from all rahmat and all medet, then that rahmat cannot enter. Even if it’s reaching to him it cannot enter to him until he opens his heart again. Huh! in our way, we say that if you miss sohbet for forty days, your beyat is broken. We don’t want to say these things. Because people are doing it all the time anyway. We don’t want to place such a burden on them. But this is something, maybe sometime you should remind yourself.

Forty days, you are not following the sohbet, you are not listening, doesn’t mean that you are just listening, it means that you are putting the sohbet in your life, that for forty days, you completely don’t remember your Sheykh or his teachings, meaning you don’t remember the Prophet, meaning you don’t remember Allah, your beyat is broken. So what about that one who says, ‘no, I want to cut myself off from everything,’ is he still considered a murid?

A murid is the one who is looking for a murad. If you are not looking for your murad, then you are not a murid. It’s a very big and heavy subject. I don’t want to get into it too much now. But, may Allah wake them up before it’s too late. The tricks and the traps of sheytan and dajjal comes in  so many ways. SelamAleykum Warahmatullah.

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 Sheykh Lokman Efendi Hz,
Khalifah of SahibulSaif Shaykh Abdulkerim el Kibrisi (qs),
16 Ramazan 1436H
July 3, 2015

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