Question: We see a lot of people with depression, how can we understand depression in spiritual terms?
BismillahirRahmanirRahim. Depression can only be understood in spiritual terms. Because, depression, it is a spiritual condition. It is not a chemical condition. It is a spiritual condition.
When the spirit it loses itself, it loses its reason of creation, its going to understand that everything means nothing, that everything is nothing, its not worth to live for because everything is hopeless and everything is garbage. And nothing means anything. Do you understand? When you come into that state, you don’t see anything that has value. But the interesting thing about it is that the spiritual people have been saying the same thing for centuries. AwliyaAllah have been saying things for centuries, that same thing isn’t it? ‘This world doesn’t mean anything. Everything is a garbage. This is lowest of the low.’ Correct? The only difference is that the Prophets and the AwliyaAllah, the Inheritors of the Prophets, the Friends of Allah, they point to what is Something. They just don’t point to what is nothing. They don’t just say, ‘This world is nothing.’ Then They say, ‘But there is Something, there is Allah, Your Creator, there is your Prophet who is always praying and thinking and crying for you. There is always the Friends of Allah who are sending you the help.’
The only problem in this world, people who get depressed, no one can show them something. If they show them something, it’s still part of this world, it is still nothing.If they say, ‘just be happy,’ we are going to say, ‘happy for what? For what?’ The people who are suffering with this condition, this depression, of course there are so many different kinds of depression. Some gets depressed for various serious things. Some get depressed for very little things. Some really they get depressed because they are trying to find and they cannot find. Some they get depressed because they are just lazy, they are not even looking.
Come to the Dergah. What are we going to send you to do first? You are going to go to the barn. Early! you are going to go to the barn. You gonna pick up that shovel and you start shovelling the manure. You going to work hard. You are going to stop the shaitans from whispering and being busy making you to become crazy, just talking, talking, talking, all these voices in your head that you are listening to everything you wakeup, they never going to leave you alone; they do so many things just to stop those voices – go to the barn in the Dergah. Don’t worry, all that smell – you gonna shut all the voices down, just like that, believe Me.
You are going to work hard. You are going to make your body now to wake up before the Sun comes up. You are going to make the body now to work for the sake of Allah. You are going to make the body now to worship and if necessary to fast, necessary to stay up night time to look at the stars. If it’s necessary, you are going to take a cold shower. You are going to be around people that you are going to pray together. You are going to worship together. You are going to make a Zikr together. You are going to push yourself to go into the rhythm of the timings that has been kept since Adam (as). You understand? And that time, it will change, it will shift. What’s important will be solved, what’s not important is just going to fall away, it’s going to drop away. Then you are going to understand, ‘How I am going to stop this depression, these voices. I am going to push aside these voices and I am going to find the Voice that Allah (swt) is sending to me.’ Because right now it’s just like a radio in the car, it’s just static bzzzz bbzzz bbzzz, busy all the time driving you crazy.
Now the Shaykh is going to tell you, ‘ put some discipline.’ Then you will be able to turn into something, a station that you can hear. Now what is that station? That station is a nonsense station. Turn to another station, another station, another station, at least you are going to know what you are listening to, you are going to understand. Then slowly They are going to tell you, ‘now turn to the station of your Lord. Turn to the station of your Prophet, turn to the station of the AwliyaAllah, turn to the station of the Angels.’ What They are sending you also, you must listen. Don’t listen to all the other stations. Don’t listen to the static. Because your spirit wants to listen to Allah. So find that connection. Establish that connection first. Then you are going to find out what are the things that are stopping you from making that connection. You are going to listen little bit. Then you are going to do. If it’s necessary you going to listen to a Fasil, Holy Music, to Ilahis and to Qasidas. Because, even the music can make the wild animal to calm down. The ego, you have to trick it in so many different ways. Islam has the answer to everything. If it’s necessary you are just going to listen to that and you going to fall into a rest. That time, there will be clear answers what you must do, InshaAllah.
May Allah protect us from that. Stay away from all these medication. They will give you some relief, later it’s going to make you very dependent, later it’s going to make you to become very confused, later it’s not going to be effective anymore. This is my answer. I am not a Doctor. But We have been trained under the Doctor of the Hearts, “Tabib ul Qulub”. So this is the Spiritual way. You like it you take it. You don’t like it as you like. Salam Aleykum.
Sheykh Lokman Efendi Hz,
Khalifah of SahibulSaif Shaykh Abdulkerim el Kibrisi (qs),
OSMANLI DERGAHI- New York
27 Rabiul Akhir 1437
February 6, 2016.