For people who cannot be in sohbet physically, is there a way to be distanced, but still in sohbet?


Question: Yesterday you were talking about loving what the Sheykh loves and being angry at what he is being angry at, and today you are talking about being in sohbet with the Sheykh. For people who cannot be in sohbet physically, is there a way to be far away, distanced, but still in sohbet?

Yes. Can you still be in love with someone and have a long distance relationship? Of course. It’s a little bit difficult, but of course. When you have a long distance relationship, I had a friend who had a long distance relationship, he was studying somewhere, she was studying somewhere, I think four years. They are seeing each other only once or twice a year, you know what they do? What did they do? ‘Are we going to have dinner?’ ‘No, no, no, I have to go home.’ That time there is no cellphone. ‘Why?’ ‘Because he is going to call me at this time.’ That time they just wake up. And you become even more organized, right? ‘No, no, this time I have to talk. No one else can interfere, because he just woke up. This time he’s going to go to sleep, so we have to talk at these two times.’

So there is a Shariat that you set up for yourself. You don’t just say ‘ahh, what am I going to do? What can I do? So difficult.’ No. Then you keep contact with each other, you start feeling more for each other also, especially the angry part. Why, why is that? Because, ‘oh, who did you see? Why did you see that person?’ You start to get jealous, right? Or, all of this is what? Because that one is not saying ‘I miss you and I love you,’ basically. That’s all. If that one is saying ‘I miss you and I love you,’ okay, okay, fine, I know. But because that one is not saying that, now you have to find a way for the person to say ‘I love you and I miss you, you’re important.’ Except for the kids, which they are going to go through that too a little bit, like this or that, everyone has felt this, we know this, we understand this.

So how are you going to be in the sohbet with the Sheykh, now, if you are so far away? You have to build something that is close. You have to be close. You have to know, you have to be busy a little bit. You can’t come to him directly, there are people who are kind of close to him. What we always say, when I wasn’t living here, Sheykh Effendi was living here, a few other people, whenever I speak to them, I would never call Sheykh Effendi directly, the first thing I would say is ‘how is Sheykh Effendi today? Is he happy today? What happened?’ I am interested to know. What happened, like this? Everything. This is different from malayani, wanting to know. There are some people who wants to know everything about the Sheykh, ‘where did he go, this, this, this?’ You understand? You know the difference, right? Especially womens. If you don’t know the difference, you will experience it again. I don’t think you want to experience something like that again, right? That is different, because you are concerned and you are genuine about it.

So then that time, you will know ‘oh, Sheykh Effendi was sick today? Oh, he washed up some people today? What happened? Oh, he’s starting a project? What can I do? This, this, this.’ There’s so much, you can never say nowadays is long distance, right? You want to use that technology, use it. You don’t want to bother, do something else. So it is possible. I give you an idea, right? Does it make sense, now, a little bit? So now, you do the work, you find out what you need to do. I show you, sort of, the direction. You want to take the fruits, I say ‘you see this path? It goes up the mountain. Don’t go this way, go this way. Don’t touch those fruits, touch those fruits. Now go and get.’ I’m not going to go there, pick the fruits for you and put it in a plate. You will be okay, insyaAllah. Selam Aleykum.


Sheykh Lokman Efendi Hz
Khalifah of SahibulSaif Shaykh Abdulkerim el Kibrisi (qs),

Osmanli Dergah, New York
17 Safar 1443
24 September 2021

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