The Prophets came to Remind us


The Prophets they came to remind us. When Sheykh Effendi passed and I had to give sohbet, although throughout the years he says ‘talk a little bit,’ I talk, I don’t give sohbet, I talk, but after Sheykh Effendi passed and I know certain things I have to do, and I’m thinking, what can I say that everyone has not heard? Everyone has heard before, from the source. Then what can I say on top of that? Nothing. So I was pretty sad for a while. Then I remember, Sheykh Effendi says ‘our job is just to remind.’ Not my words, just to repeat. Repeat and remind. Reminding means, everything is inside of you already, understand, the Quran is already there, in the heart. It’s just reminding.

So safety will come to that person who says ‘this is not mine, these are not my words, I’m not saying something new. I’m not claiming this is mine. But what I may tell you, something new, is just what my own experience to this is. I can tell you,’ and anything that comes from the heart, it will reach to the heart. Something that comes from the mind, it may not reach to the mind, because majority of the people they are no mind people. They are using the mind only for dunya, not for Ahiret. They use this for dunawi, let’s say, knowledge, or even if it’s religion, it’s knowledge of religion that is not from here (the heart), it’s from here (the mind). I ask, what is that? People also get very upset with me, as they did with Sheykh Effendi, they say ‘so, you guys are not encouraging people to learn about Islam? You are stopping them from reading books, going to medrese and this and this?’ You don’t understand. We are not saying that. We are saying there is a knowledge that is higher than that, and that is more important. And in these days, everyone is trying to be an alim, there is no shortage of knowledge. You open up that phone, you can do anything that you want and learn anything that you want. Even religious, so-called spiritual knowledge, no?

But there is another kind of knowledge of edep, that you need to have a guide. You cannot do that like that, through the phone. And for that, not only you need a guide, but you need a proper place to do it, a proper place. You need a Dergah. For the longest time, Sheykh Effendi had a Dergah on 39th street, next to 42nd street. Once a week, we spent hours there, coming in 6 o’clock, 6pm, waiting for all the Murids to come in, in and out, in and out, he will stay whole night long, and he will leave at 6 o’clock in the morning. Once a week. Then he opened up this Dergah here, where now it’s not only once a week, now everyday, for those who want that kind of knowledge. With that kind of knowledge, you need a special place. Any kind of knowledge that you want to learn, it needs a special place. You want to be a lawyer, you cannot be a lawyer, learning law, in slaughterhouse. You cannot learn how to be a butcher in a medical school. You need your special place, and you need special people, special time, then you are going to learn something. People are so particular, dunya, they understand ‘I must wear the uniform, I must pay the money, I must have these teachers, da, da, da,’ but when it comes to spirituality they say ‘no, no, no, anything, anywhere, anyone. Teacher, no teacher, once a week, not once a week. Doesn’t matter.’ Those who have higher aspirations, they will know ‘I cannot have this once a week, I must have it more.’ Those who have higher aspirations, that they say ‘because I cannot do more than once a week, now when I’m there, I must try to absorb as much as I can.’ That’s okay too. That is okay.

So to show something, to remind you, to remind myself. This is not only for you, this is for all of us. It’s for me first, he’s saying. So I was, I was a little bit shy, then I said ‘I have to remind and I have to speak.’ Now we’re going to show a little bit different, because this is my own experience, and it is important, because the best kind of knowledge is the knowledge that you experience, not just something that you read. You cannot. So Alhamdulillah. Then that time, when you are experiencing that knowledge, here, then they may open up a situation where they say ‘okay, now you have to go here, to open up this kind of knowledge.’ Then you have to travel with them to do this and to do this.

Traveling, it is a sunnat of Prophets. Not traveling for vacation, not traveling for your nafs. Not traveling where you are running away from the face of Allah. And those ones that they are traveling and living properly here, putting it in their heart, trying to fight, where can you be where Allah is not going to be? Where you can go? Where? Where? And that time, anywhere you go, you are looking for that and you are understanding that. It’s one of the reasons why Hz Shams, what did he do to Hz Mevlana? Looking for Allah, to have the passion for Allah, to look for Allah, where? He took him out from the medreses. Where did he bring him to? To places that, at that time especially, they say ‘this is the last place you are going to learn.’ All those wrong places, let’s say. But today’s people, they are going to use that as an excuse. Today’s “spiritually high” people, they use that as an excuse, they say ‘you see? Sham e-Tabriz brought Mevlana to this wrong place, to this wrong place, to this one, to explain, to understand what is here. Oh, they can do that, so I can do that too. I am a Sufi, so I can go to clubs, I can go to all those wrong places.’ They say ‘it’s okay, because they did that, I am doing that too.’

Some people, they go to these, Sheykh Effendi used to say ‘discothèque, discothèque, discothèque,’ he is saying, ‘some people I know, because they think they are so Sufi, they go to these places and they start whirling, they start looking for Allah there. It’s no good too. You are doing it for your ego, now. Or they go and they have rave, they go rave, they go to their grave with trouble. Eh, go to rave, trying to find. What happened? You’re so bored in the Masjid? There is a problem? Are you going there to pull people? No, you are not. You are going there to enjoy yourself.’ So we should not fool ourselves with these kinds of things. To learning the manners, one thing we have to say, it is not just to be so sweet with your words, to be so soft, to always be humble-looking. One thing that the Khutbah is not mentioning, manners also means protocol. The manner, the way in which you have to behave. In front of the king, the protocol is like this, the manner is like this. Yes? In front of your father, it’s like this. In front of the child, it is like this. In front of a betrayer it is like this, in front of an enemy it is like this, yes? Do you understand? That is the manners. In front of your friends, it is like this, in front of believer it is like this, in front of an unbeliever it is like this, but to know each. You cannot, now, treat an unbeliever as you would treat Allah, you cannot. You cannot even treat a man the same way you treat a woman. You cannot.

As the Prophet says, you have to treat them each according to their own level, with their own maqam, to find their maqam, and I don’t mean maqam as in spiritually, but to find where their heart is, what they are. The Prophets, look what they did. They can sit with the poor and with the rich, with the children and with the elderly, he makes them feel comfortable, he is speaking to them and he touches their hearts. How a person is able to do that, to move to different, different, let’s say, sections, different, different people, different levels, how is a person able to do that? How? How is the Prophet (AS) able to do it? Once, there was a Sahabi that was looking for his son, he couldn’t find his son. He started looking, and he saw his son playing with a couple of kids from the neighborhood, and the Prophet (AS) was watching them. So the Sahabi went to the Prophet (AS), saying ‘it is time, can I take my son?’ and he says ‘let him play a little bit longer.’ So he waited, then after that he said ‘can I have permission to take him now?’ ‘Let him play a little bit longer.’ Third time he asked, Prophet says ‘yes, get your son, but don’t call him by saying ‘o my son, come.’ Call his name, but don’t say, ‘o my son, come’.’ And the Sahabi was wondering, he’s saying to the Prophet (AS), saying ‘may I ask, what is the reason?’ Because especially at that time, they always talk to their children, you know, they use ‘Ibn’, if your name is Muaz, you say ‘o Ibn Muaz, the son of Muaz, come.’ You are not going to use the kid’s name. ‘O my son,’ you are going to say, ‘come.’

So Holy Prophet (AS) is saying ‘because he’s playing with orphans, and if you say ‘o my son, come,’ they are going to feel very sad, the rest of the children. Because they don’t have a father. So just call him by his name.’ How delicate is that? How delicate is that? And the Holy Prophet (AS), knowing that, because he is, he understood why, because he is a yatim as well, no? He is an orphan. A few things will make you to be able to be good with people on every level. A few things. One of those things is when you experience what they experience. They call it empathy. Not sympathy, empathy. They are like that, you have experienced what they are experiencing, you understand. So you go from that language, that level. And people in the spiritual way, they will make you to experience more, so that you will be able to understand, just as the Holy Prophet (AS) he experienced so much, for his entire ummat he experienced. Which is why thousands of years later, he can still speak to the hearts.

That’s one. And if you have not experienced, in the spiritual way, you have not experienced that, they will make you to experience. Otherwise, your training is not complete. If you never experience that kind of a sadness, they will make you to experience. If not all, a little bit, so that you know. Then that time, your experience, your knowledge will be greater. It hurts, but now you will be able to reach to people who are hurt, and you are going to understand them and you will be able to speak according to their level and that knowledge. That’s one. So having that experience and understanding that will make you to be able to move and to talk to people. Sometimes it’s very difficult, because most of the experiences that we are talking about, they are not easy experiences, they are very difficult experiences. Whether those experiences you went through or Allah is putting you through that. Whether you chose, yourself, or you don’t. It’s there. InsyaAllah, we will try. We must try to have manners, we must try to have the intelligence to move according to the levels and according to the protocol, not to mix up things. I’m saying this because a lot of people are stuck. They say ‘manners? Well, manners means you have to be nice all the time.’ No. That’s not what manners means. Manners means you have to act according to the situation, according to the level, and according to the person.

So they get confused sometimes if they see Sheykh Effendi being very harsh, they say ‘we must be humble, we must be nice.’ No. When you are dealing with people according to that level, you have to go according to that level. When you are speaking to children, we talk about toys. When you are speaking to animals, they only will listen to very harsh voice. You are listening to them and you are saying ‘this person has no manners.’ No. when you tell a dog to sit, you have to say it in a very clear way. It doesn’t mean that you are mean or you are bad. Manners is important.

So we will try, slowly insyaAllah. May Allah forgive me and bless you. We must think, we must run after this kind of knowledge, because without the proper situation, you are not going to be able to practice your faith. You learn, people come into the masjid, Jami, they are listening to all of this, they go out, the whole world and everything is telling them the complete opposite. How are you going to practice this? Where are you going to practice it? So you always become schizophrenic. When you are with them, you have to at least, as if you have to put aside your Islam. That’s not healthy. So run to those places where you can practice. InsyaAllah, Allah accept our good intentions. Our actions may be very weak, we are weak creatures, we are not claiming anything, but may Allah accept our strong intentions for His sake, for the Holy Prophet’s sake, insyaAllah. Wa minallahu taufiq, Al Fatiha. Amin. Selam Aleykum wa rahmatullah.


Sheykh Lokman Efendi Hz
Khalifah of SahibulSaif Shaykh Abdulkerim el Kibrisi (qs),

Osmanli Dergah, New York
30 Rabiul Awwal 1443
5 November 2021

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